【八卦文】RMS第一NL經營公會禁不起考驗

此文章於2025/3/31新增英文翻譯以及刪減不重要的案例

This post has updated English version and removed some non-important case in 31th Mar 2025.

因為這兩句發言

Because of this two statements

(From Upnp, kekw guild leader)

4.In the end I want to say, if there is any guild member’s word make you uncomfortable. Don’t be afraid to tell me because I don’t mind fighting with anyone. After checking what happened, I will help you deal with it properly, just like sexual harassment, as long as the person involved feels uncomfortable, then that is.

darkshades (Kekw guild Jr.)

There was a drama happened recently about 子哥(a Kekw guild member, already got kicked from discord) talking behind 發哥(Upnp)’s back about he inherited gears from many people. so 發哥 kicked him from discord , From what i’ve know they already resolved in private. Although they didn’t make up with each other , they promised to keep their distance with each other in the future.

This drama can’t be only one side’s fault. Although 子哥 thought he was just joking, but if a joke makes the person feel uncomfortable, it is no longer a joke.

I am not sure if it’s 子哥’s friends trying to help him out or they just making more drama while the situation is a mess. Please stop your behavior, since both sides have already decided to keep their distance from each other, no need to cause more unnecessary disputes.

To those people who keep making memes and spreading them, I feel like what you guys doing is really disgraceful. If you really have any dissatisfaction about Kekw, why not just make a new place to speak it out ? Instead of hiding in the dark side and being a spy here and keeping spreading rumors.

因以下兩位人士：

Because of the following two people：

一個不怕得罪人一個說不相往來自己玩自己的，或是開個群直說不滿

First one says he doesn’t mind fighting with others, the other one says if you have any dissatisfaction about them , you should make a new post to speak it out or should just keep distance from each other.

因此配合要求開一個新版面直說不滿，

To satisfy their request , this article is made to express people’s dissatisfaction about them.

RMS史上最大娛樂城 開幕囉，然而：

The largest entertainment city in Royals history is opening!!! However….

此篇文章屬於八卦性質，正確性請自行去找答案

This article is in the nature of gossip , please find out the truth yourself.

請善用自己的思考能力，或者是不要思考，只玩自己玩爽的遊戲就好

Please use your ability of thinking appropriately , or stop thinking, just play games in that way whatever you want.

註：編輯本文的所有人士，皆身心健康、家庭和諧，不會隨便就出來講，不會靠近水邊、無登山興趣、不上大樓高處，除了吃東西比較不節制之外沒有自殺傾向，在此發表不自殺聲明。

P.S. All the people who edited this article are with good physical,mental health and having a harmonious family. They won’t ask people go-one-on-one casually. They won’t go near the waterside, having no interest in mountain climbing, and won’t go to high places in buildings. They have no suicidal tendencies except for eating uncontrollably. They hereby make a statement not to commit suicide.

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懶人包 Tldr:

發哥 (Upnp, Kekw guild leader)

子哥(a Kekw guild member, already got kicked)

超哥(another member, got kicked too ;  got blocked by 發哥)

Upper left red box:

Upnp：Is Kekw dominated by one voice ?

(“dominated by one voice” : Like as dictatorship, this means undemocratic leadership style and inability to listen to other people’s opinions)

Upnp：Sadly yes, everything here is decided by me. It’s my way or the highway. Nothing to negotiate.

Central red box:

Upnp admitted he inherited gear from Top NL-Momo=UoUoy, and still keeps emphasizing that his own equipment is also very good. Without inheriting Momo’s gear he’s still Top 1 NL with his own gear.

Upper right red box:

When the member knew his name in real life, he wrote an announcement that he felt threatened. His real life is doing well. He will never suicide even thought anything happened. 

As the person invited old guild members to visit his house in real life, making personal information in public, using Facebook/Line group with his real name on it, he may be too frightened to remember all of these things.

發哥 DMs 子哥 and 超哥

Upnp accused that them(子哥 and 超哥) for spreading rumors about he inherited gear from someone.

(This is refer to Upnp inherited gear from UoUoy)

The timeline is :

Upnp kick 子哥 and 超哥 from Kekw guild discord first then DM both of them.

When he DM 子哥 , he ask 子哥 “where is him now ? If he wants to meet in real life to go-one-on-one ? ”

After that Upnp posted an announcement in Kekw discord to explain the whole thing and why he kicked both of them from discord with a No suicide statement

No suicide statement

When you publish an article or expose some news, you may be killed due to the exposure of these stuff. In this situation, the poster may want to send a “no suicide statement” to emphasize that he will never do anything to hurt himself in any near future, avoiding being plotted or murdered by others and disappearing mysteriously!)

Kamikaze Captain Wade (A kekw guild member)

Just ask a question “Aren’t you the one to ask go-one-on-one first” ?

He was beheaded by the emperor.

(Just like Literary Prison happened in Qin Dynasty. If you say something that the emperor doesn’t like, you will get beheaded.)

Wade just doubted if Upnp is the one asked to go-one-on-one, he got kicked from discord immediately without any explanation.

這邊是關於一言堂的紀錄，但當事人承認，所以沒什麼好說的

硬要牽強附會的話，就是公會招生的文章怎麼鼓勵玩家加入都會因為這項聲明變成了廢話

當雙方有共識的時候，就不是八卦了。是共識。

If you insist on being far-fetched, The recruiting post on forum that encourage players to join will be turned into nonsense because of this announcement.

This is a record about dominated by one voice(Like dictatorship, this means undemocratic leadership style and inability to listen to other people’s opinions), but the person involved admitted it, so there is nothing to say.

When there is consultation between the two parties, it is no longer gossip. It is consultation.

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The LHC incident of 瑪哈(a kekw guild member) tldr;

When they were recruiting a LHC melee party, they didn’t notice that the don’t have a BUCC in party until they about to go so they decided to run with juggling si mule.

They kicked 瑪哈 who is not enough close to Upnp during the run when need to rebuff si which is mean 瑪哈 will get less EXP compare with the other member because he need to keep switching party.

In the end, one of DK in this run got 420m EXP. However,瑪哈 only got like 340m EXP.

瑪哈 got less exp than other, so ask why only kicked him instead of taking turn after the run in discord. 

Upnp didn’t give him a reasonable explanation. However, he blamed 瑪哈 is too turtle hair (nitpicking).

(turtle hair 龜毛 mean nitpicking in Chinese)

這篇是出團練等的處理事情方式不佳

當成員疑問為什麼在LHC內要一直被進退隊損失經驗值的時候，以質疑做法的回應句點問題，或者說是根本懶得管。此行為若是在論壇則黑名單已成立。

This one shows a poor way of handling things .

When members asked why they were constantly switched party during the LHC run and losing EXP, Upnp only throwed “or next time let you be leader?” then didn’t say more, or he just doesn’t really care about how members feel. If this behavior was posted on forum, it’s 100% blacklisted.

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The VL rule tldr;

12/13 訂規則

13th Dec : he make an new rule for VL.

Red Box : 

When you die more than 4 times in 1 run, you will go back to the “noob” role. You are on an “internship” role until you die less than once in 1 run.
(Internship role = no split & bonus)

12/15 早上VL團

15th Dec morning VL run

Upnp died 6 times, 凱哥Kai died 4 times (Kai is a guild member,also helping recruit VL run), both of them are going back to the “internship” role after this run.

 

12/15 晚上VL團

15th Dec Night VL run

In this run , Upnp and Kai are internships (no split) 

*Upnp run on bs (IGN CocoStella) with other internships as 4th party

When VL started, all he did was sit on a chair far away and jump around.

He didn’t do what a bishop should do in VL run (Holy shield、Dispel etc) even though his party member asked to.

When the host tryna called him to ress dead people , he was very reluctant.

12/15 晚上VL團後

After that VL run , he changed the rule again. At the same time, announce that he’s back to normal role. ( means he can get split from next run)

However, Kai still joined as an intern in the next run.

另外附上打VL團的劣跡行為：

Here are more his behaviors in VL run：

開NL，隨意解開SED，然後下一秒還是死

When he runs on his NL, randomly used hero will 10 when stunned and get laser died the next second.

開BS時公開聲明自己不會幫補血，有時候會說不會幫復活

When he runs on bishop, blaming people who get laser-ed and say that he won’t heal because it’s their fault to get laser-ed. Sometimes he even says that he won’t ress you if you die.

自己死掉的時候卻講出了為什麼沒提醒害我死了的言論

However,if he died,he would start to blame people for not reminding him.

奇怪的遊戲反應：

Weird Game Reactions:

VL版本有好幾個版本，以前的版本在論壇上說很簡單，要改難(當時HW價格很差)

There were several versions of VL, back then he said it’s too easy and asked to make VL more difficult on forum. (Hero Will 10 price was bad af at this time)

改版後打不贏，說太難，三改後打得贏(Create時期)

They couldn’t beat the new VL, so he complained on forum asking for changing again.

After nerfed VL 3 times , they finally can finish it. (In Create)

此時打贏的時候會貼打贏剩餘時間，但是有一場低於10分鐘的卻把計時器擦掉不給看

Usually he would post the screenshot showing the timer , however , one run timer is less than 10 minutes and the screenshot timer is pixelated.

像是不想要給人察覺到一樣

Seems like he doesn’t want to let people see.

以老玩家視角寫了新手不用買白武的文章，然而在這個版本帶公會打VL，死的次數卻不比新人少,令人搞不清到底誰才是新手

He wrote a thread that newbies don’t need to buy perfect weapons from the perspective of an old player. However, he died more times than newbies in their guild VL he hosted nowadays. It’s hard to tell who’s the real newbie.

表現也像是沒打過一樣

In other runs, he always acts like it’s his first time to do VL run.

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24小時Split事件

24 hour-limited split event

According to someone who wants to stay anonymous, 

One Day, Upnp made a new announcement which is tryna to find an assistant to handle the VL split because he thought it’s too bothersome to find everyone to give split.

He said that it usually takes him at least 1 week to give all the splits, so if there’s someone who can help him to handle the split, it will make him more motivated to host VL.

In the end, no one wanted to help handle the split after the announcement, so he changed the rule which says people only get 24 hours to get split after the drops are sold.

If you don’t get your split in 24 hours , then the split will become guild fund directly.

本來王團的開團/指揮/賣物/分錢小幫手基本上是做義工的，錢也沒比較多，是個爛坑

此案例用了超級短的時間直接過審，彷彿別人的想法跟生活作息都不重要似的

It’s a thankless job for hosting, selling drops and giving split, you didn’t get extra payment for it. Everyone knows it.

In this case, other’s thoughts and schedules are nothing to him. It takes a very short time to make this rule.

其他的八卦場合：

Other gossip events:

若自己能多開一隻角色的時候主張多開要多分錢，而平常要出團也沒少問過有什麼mule能開

He asks for more split if he needs to bring mules.

However, when he was recruiting for a bossing run, he never forgot to ask party members what mules they could bring. (of course he doesn’t offer to give more split if they bring mules)

【如果把這種行為放在過去他蹭（名義上的）朋友的團吸啪吸到200等當作自己成就的話，恐怕欠很多錢】

【He should owe his nominal-friends a lot of meso according to this kind of behavior in the past since they free-leech his character to LV 200 as his own achievement.】

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遺產說懶人包

Inheritance tldr :

Upnp started to inherit people’s gear everywhere since 2020.

He wasn’t #1 NL until he gets gear from Momo.

He refused to admit that he become #1 after inheriting from Momo.

另外根據八卦記者的回覆

遺產拿的裝備遺產是不只一個玩家的遺產，但閉口不提

Also, according to gossip reporters, he is not only inheriting gear from Momo but also from other top players. He never mentioned it.

而當事人表示可以等MOMO回來把裝備還他，但是先賣掉了自己的裝備，然後說自己有兩套裝

Upnp keeps emphasizing that he won’t sell Momo’s gear since he’s still hoping that someday Momo will come back and then they can play together again.

He mentioned that he has two set gears in Kekw announcement (one set is Momo’s gear), but he already sold his own gear back then according to forum.

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而官宣聲明有溝通這件事情：

Regarding to their official announcement that says they have talked before kicking , we made a timeline table :

All the time in screenshot is GMT+8

19th Mar. 08:49am

Upnp DM 子哥 and ask if he wants to talk in person

Red box :

發哥：Come out to talk ?

子哥：Yes ?

發哥：Are you in Taipei ?

子哥：Are you child ?

發哥：What do you think we talk about it in person ?

 

19th Mar. 10:12am

Upnp wrote an announcement that Kekw is dominated by one voice ; And No suicide statement to describe the whole thing,including that he’s afraid that 子哥 might do something bad on him in real life. 

 

19th Mar. 10:23am

Wade doubted that it’s Upnp asking to talk in person at first.

 

19th Mar. 10:23am ( after around 3sec)

Wade got kicked from discord 

During 21th Mar to 22th Mar

Unknown netizens posted some memes and revelations in Royals Chinese FaceBook community.

21th Mar 9:30pm

Zeno (A member in kekw) : “Talked before kicking, already better than some guild leader”

Mocking 發哥 is the “some guild leader”…?

22th Mar 12:32 pm

發哥’s friend (Kekw guild Jr.) issued an announcement accusing that some netizens took the words out of context . She requested these netizens stop being anonymous and come out to talk.

( However, when people really speak out their thoughts without being anonymous, they will get booted from discord in very short times like Wade in 19th Mar.)

22th Mar 12:53pm

發哥’s friend who doesn’t understand what happened fully says why don’t express their displeasure and talk directly 

Cor12: I totally agree with what hang said. If you’re unhappy, just say it directly.

(The question is… Upnp didn’t give any chance to let those people speak out their thoughts, and just booted them out of discord. Now the JRs are asking why they don’t come out to talk….? )

為了舉證當事人沒有溝通這個行為，將時間軸排序出來，

In order to prove that people involved didn’t communicate at all before kicking , we draw the timeline.

如果有溝通過的對話紀錄，便可以翻案，但如果當事人裝死，坦白說也不能怎樣

If there is any record of the conversation that can prove they did communicate before kicking, this case can be overturned. To be honest, if the person involved decided to ignore it ,that’s it.

這本來就是個八卦文章

Once again ：This is just a gossip thread

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其他來源的八卦：

Gossip from other sources：

The OP of screenshot :

It is so funny that this guild doesn’t allow their members to buy cheap apples. Because the Jr. can’t buy them,she called these members who bought before her greedy and selfish. Also they were trying to witch hunt who bought all the apples by asking the seller.

此案例是副會長要辦公會活動時，有成員貓到更便宜的蘋果價分享，被不知名人士掃掉後，會長當下沒去做安撫或是想個讓活動能正常運行的言論，第一動作是要求去查誰買的，揪出犯人，至於是覺得沒買到虧到，還是妨礙活動的運行，不知道，但這影響了副會長辦活動的決心，氣到用了一個晚上的時間才冷靜下來繼續辦活動，買到蘋果的人發現這批貨爭議好大，為了安撫副會長，蘋果本來就賣便宜了，還另外捐了CS-2張，明確的表現出了自己才是熱愛賣leech公會的人，不會被這種小事打敗。

The background in this case is that the Jr wanted to host a guild event, and one of the guild member shared a screenshot of cheap apples in discord. The JR didn’t go buy immediately, so when she tried to buy them, all the apples were already sold out. 

Instead of consoling her or finding a solution to make the event able to continue, Upnp chose to try to find out who is the one bought all of the apples by trying to ask the shop owner. 

It took her all night to calm down and continue to prepare for the event.

It’s because of the loss of cheap apples or breaking in the process of preparing the event to shake her determination , no one knows the answer.

The person noticed that he might be in big trouble because of the cheap apples he bought. To console the JR , he decided to sell all the apples he bought to the Jr in a very cheap price and donated 2 Chaos Scroll as prizes for the guild event,showing his determination that he’s the real one who loves the guild (sell leech) , this drama won’t crush him.

爭議的點在於沒有言論自由跟情報操作

有做過的事情會刪別人文章，不敢讓人公開討論

會員出事的時候(Blastlist文章-論壇Veen11 -Zak Leech爭議，成員檢舉賣方先)，封鎖消息，禁止群組發言、禁止當事人發言，否則踢人然後自己貼文說兩邊都有不對，擅自結案。

The point of controversy is the lack of freedom of speech, and Information manipulation.

He will delete people’s messages when it’s related to what he has done back then.

He is afraid to let people discuss openly.

When his member has issues with others in game (like Veen11 – Zak Leech drama in blastlist thread on forum), he blocked the news and prohibited members to discuss in discord and forum including the person involved. If anyone breaks the rule,he will boot out of discord and guild without doubt.

After forbidding members to reply on forum , he wrote an official response saying that “in this drama both sides are at fault , we won’t respond anymore after this message”, forcing to end the drama.

禁止別人討論自己

Forbid others to discuss him (Upnp)

在自己的群組倒是沒差，管不著；在別人的群組被討論也要不高興，又不敢搬運回自己家討論，其他人幫坦沒關係，但是當事人躲起來不敢發言，擅自破防讓別人擅自結案，不是一個大團風範。

Since he’s the rule in guild , he can do whatever he wants there, such as forbid people to discuss anything against him.

However,it’s weird that he also feels offended when people talk about him in their own group.

He never responds by himself when the drama is related to him, he always let others handle it, that is not the way how a grand guild deals with things.

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其他公會的爭議事件：

Controversy in other guilds ：

Revenant：拿禿頭假髮跟一堆垃圾NX裝當作100M價值參加公會交換禮物活動

Revenant (A taiwanese guild) : 

He prepared a wig of bald and many useless NX to join guild christmas exchange gift event which the gift should value 100m+

2018-2019年伸手牌到處發問：不會洗血，會問問題，只要重練人物就會重新問一次洗血，表示根本沒想要學，只想要找工具人，至於幾乎每場打龍都要讓自己角色吸啪，還是打龍的時候隔壁在農蘋果還是農心跳，那是個人行為，不用嘴。

In 2018-2019 

Being a free-rider everywhere :

Ask how to HP wash every time when he made a new character which shows he never tried to understand it at all and only wanted to find a toolman.

We don’t discuss his behavior about asking for free leech in every HT run or farming stoppers and doing APQ while doing HT here.

Everyday：

2019年8月：公會開團打GPQ，有成員打到Ass30書（此公會當時打GPQ的共識是寶箱誰打到就屬於誰的，並無分split的習慣），此人喊500M想收，會長因不知此書當時的物價表示想先查看看，結果一貓下去只有兩本都標價888M，會長也認為這不是真實物價，並不打算以這麼高的價格賣出，因此還是無法決定該賣多少錢，然而因準備打下一場決定先放著晚點再處理此書，當事人覺得對自己人還要凹感到不開心。

In 2019 Aug : ( Everyday Guild , a Taiwanese guild )

Someone got Ass30 when they were doing GPQ. (Back then it belonged to whoever got it from the box , people didn’t split it.) Upnp said he wanted to buy it for 500m.

However, the person didn’t know how much Ass30 was, so he chose to owl it first. It’s only 2 books for 888m each in fm. He felt like it’s not the real price, so he didn’t want to sell it for such a high price and still can’t decide the price.

They decided to discuss the price later and continue to do GPQ first, Upnp was so unhappy about it. He couldn’t understand why they couldn’t sell him “a bit cheaper”, when they are in the same guild.

2019年9月：擅自退群，然後找人帶進來群組罵一罵再一擊脫離的故事

In 2019 Sep : A story about he left the LINE chat group (Commonly used communication software in Taiwan) by himself, and asked someone to invite him back to the group for scolding then left again.

(This part is wrote from the person who involved into this drama ‘s perspective)

Mooncake (another name of Upnp) asked someone to invite him back to the LINE group and typed an essay then left again.

The content is about counting how much he did for this community in the past, and accused me of ruining guild atmospheres and covering bad things friends did. Also mentioned that I showed off the gear inherited from others trying to make people want to leave. However, I never mentioned where my gear is from.

顯示全部的部分：

至於負面教學是在講：

As for negative teaching, it is talking about:

22th Aug 2019

發哥 (MoonCake) is JR of Everyday.

He shared that “How to Duo HT” in EveryDay guild LINE group

(Duo HT refer to join 2 different HT run with 2 bishop in the same time , so you can get 2x split)

EveryDay guild leader didn’t think this behavior is good. He thinks it’s inappropriate that a JR shared such a meso-making method.

The Guild leader talked about it with him in their JRs group, and then when MoonCake saw the messages, he left immediately without saying anything.

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裝女生攀關係的八卦：

The gossip about he pretended to be a girl, and being a name-dropper :

According to an informant wanted to be anonymous :

發哥(Upnp) pretend to be another taiwanese girl by changing name and profile picture to join taiwanese guild,spying there to steal the guide they wrote.

One day, another girl joined the guild.

Upnp (still pretend a girl) DM her

During the talk,they found out that both of them are men when they talked about serving in the military.

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雜項八卦：

Other gossip：

這一區沒有對錯問題，重申一次，「這是八卦文章」

There is no correct or wrong in this part of gossip, again, “This is a gossip post”

• 進出過多個公會，朋友會變成遺產或是敵人兩種，提出過即使有一半的人討厭他，只要跟另一半人玩就好的言論，可能伺服器有一半的人腦袋有問題，哪一邊不知道
  He wandered in multiple guilds and his friends will be sort of 2 types which is  inheritance or enemies in the end.He had said that even though half of the people hate him , he just played with another 50% of the people. We can only say that half of the people in the server got something wrong in their brains,however, we can’t be sure which side it is.

• 論壇上賣東西抄別人在論壇上的版型也沒跟當事人講，不尊重人，至於為什麼每次賣完都要刪文打X不給查，個人行為不探討
  He copied other’s format of selling threads on forum without asking the OP which is very disrespectful.As for why he always edited his post to “X” after sold the item, we don’t talk about it here because it’s personal behavior.
• 2017-2018年時說自己有一個妹妹一起玩(Sair)，問一堆問題，但從來沒有出現過，之後繼承了白龍槍
  In 2017-2018, he said he had a younger sister play Sair with him. He asked a lot of questions of Sair for her, however his younger sister never appeared. After a while, he inherited a 123wa dragon revolver.

• 曾經手過RWT玩家的裝備，但存活了下來，當時沒有5B身家調查的規章
  He had handled many equipment of RWT players back then and he survived. Back then, the rule of due diligence hadn’t come out.

• 在A這邊說B會檢舉朋友逃BAN不要跟他好，現在B卻在他的公會內
  He talked badly behind player B’s back about player B will report friends who ban evading to player A, telling player A to stay away from player B.However,player B is in his guild now.

• 成就文之中如果是30人團的，會把朋友TAG進去，而後續的成就文，那些朋友會消失掉，如果是退谷或變成遺產那也沒辦法，但是好朋友名字的變化度很大
  He will tag all his friends when he posted a screenshot of 30 man vl run in Latest Accomplishment Thread. However, some of their names will disappear in the follow-up post. There’s nothing we can say if they “quitting” or “turning into inheritance”, but this shows his buddylist changes very fast.

• 其中也有明明同一團打贏，但因為不是同公會就不TAG進去的狀況，看來不是朋友
  In one of the screenshots he posted in the thread,he didn’t tag someone because they aren’t in the same guild. Seems it’s because they aren’t friends.

• 只要他幫過你一次，他會記在心裡
  As long as he helps you once, he will remember it in his heart. 

• 只要你拒絕他一次，他也會記在心裡
  As long as you reject him once, he will remember it in his heart too.